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Shimmin Beg
On 15/07/2016 at 16:13, dce said:

A couple of years back I was involved in a book project to write some new CoC Gaslight scenarios ... in order to get an idea of what was already out there I put together a "cheat sheet" for myself which summarises the main Mythos themes, locations and plot points that have appeared in previously published scenarios. Maybe this list will be helpful to this discussion (even if only to help people recall which scenario is which).

 

Dean, that's brilliant, cheers.

 

From that I've pulled together a loose and inaccurate picture of the settings of these 19 scenarios:

10 of them are primarily in London

5-6 involve a country estate, 2-3 are primarily there (the rest are partly in London)

1-2 are primarily rural, and 2-3 more have some rural sections

1 is in Paris

1 is aboard a ship

1 is in another historic British city

4 (included above) move between London and elsewhere

 

There seems to be a shortage of industrial scenarios, which is a shame - I've seen a couple of very promising ideas here on the site, and I think it's actually one of the features of Gaslight that I do find interestingly different and appealing.  I'd like to see more stuff that's actually about the Industrial Age side of things.  There's also a London and southern bias in general, which is understandable, but again I'd like to see more variety.  But that's off-topic.

 

To get back on-topic, I'm trying to decide if it'd be better to see:

a) scenarios re-released which are amenable to being tied together, perhaps encouraging people to dip a toe in the waters of a Gaslight mini-campaign

b) scenarios released which are distinctly different, showcasing some of the rich possibilities available, but perhaps leaving people scratching their heads about using them

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The_Tatterdemalion_King

A Western and Colonial book is really needed to show folks that Gaslight is not just hansom cabs in London.

 

Cthulhu by Genocide?

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trevlix

While its not a scenario, the Gaslight Equipment Catalogue would be a great enhancement to any gaslight scenario guide. (Assuming its contents aren't in the 7th ed book or recent gaslight reprint, which I didn't think it was)

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Mysterioso

Cthulhu by Genocide?

 

Sadly, that could be a title for any Cthulhu time period offering, paleolithic to (probably) future.

 

The point is that exploration, gold rushes, railroad building, etc. (and the according clashes between peoples) were much more a part of Gaslight CoC than they were Classic CoC but for some reason Gaslight CoC seems to only be perceived as foggy London.  Quincey Morris, Texan adventurer, is just as much a part of Dracula as is Jonathan Harker, solicitor.

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bastthecatgoddess

I think the Yorkshire Horror should be republished, if only because it wasn't included in 3rd edition, but also cause its a good adventure.

 

Other than that i agree with everyone else about Sacraments of Evil, not really a fan of Dark Designs.
 
But for the most part i would just like new adventures, which thankfully is happening with the upcoming campaign Curse of Seven.
 
On Pagan Publishing and pdfs: I believe the reason why delta green was allowed to be in pdf format was because John Crowe wasn't really involved with that book. But for The Golden Dawn, i think it's worth reminding that one of the authors of that books is "Alan Smithee", they probably won't be able to get his permission to republish it. Which is a shame.

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PoC

For those who don't know who "Alan Smithee" is (it's a US term), here's a link explaining the name.

 

Alan Smithee

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Tony Williams

Another upvote for the Gaslight Equipment Catalogue Monograph from me.

 

It's more than its name suggests - it has useful articles on healthcare, postal methods, gun law in Britain, the encroachment of electricity and more.

 

Well worth a purchase ( you can still get POD on DriveThru I think ).

 

I think it's so good it should be "promoted" by Chaosium to be a Cthulhu by Gaslight Companion.

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Lammomedes

Another upvote for the Gaslight Equipment Catalogue Monograph from me.

 

It's more than its name suggests - it has useful articles on healthcare, postal methods, gun law in Britain, the encroachment of electricity and more.

 

Well worth a purchase ( you can still get POD on DriveThru I think ).

 

I think it's so good it should be "promoted" by Chaosium to be a Cthulhu by Gaslight Companion.

 

I don't particularly like "me too!" posts, but I'll second Tony on this. It's so good, I have two copies of it (the first crappy binding, and the second better binding). It's essential (and I don't use that word often) for a Gaslight campaign.

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littleo

I have the majority of the Pagan books including the rare stuff, but it's a shame they can't be put on Drivethru or sold through Arc Dream. Yes some people will pass them around, but many more will buy them, cherish them, and run them for their groups. The Pagan books are some of the best written rpg books in my collection. The extreme position against pdf frankly strikes me as a bit paranoid.

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skaye

(this might be better as a new topic, if so mods work your magic)

 

Almost 10 years ago I'd corresponded with William Barton about Gaslight U.S. plans - he'd mentioned he had some ideas for the Wild West, and there was also a Wild West monograph Chaosium had received. Not sure if that's the same as Kevin Ross' thing.

 

I also have vague memories of Badger working on something for Gaslight New York.

 

Worlds of Cthulhu #2 had "The Good, the Bad and the Utterly Insane" (thank you, Yog-Sothoth.com wiki, for reminding me!) and there are more Wild West scenarios listed on the Wiki.

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Mysterioso

 

"I also have vague memories of Badger working on something for Gaslight New York."

 

 

This would be an excellent supplement to see come to light!

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Dr_Zarnak

Didn't Old Chaosium have a Gaslight Companion in the works? There was a lot that wasn't covered in the core book - for example, the rest of Britain - perhaps this was going to do that? A Severn Valley campaign would be neat.

 

I would put Fred Behrendt's "Sacraments of Evil" on top of my Gaslight adventure list - imo, the best Ripper-type adventure that's been published - with the mini-campaign in Dark Designs a close second. I'm also quite fond of the three adventures concerning Arthur of Britain in Golden Dawn - what an excellent twist to the classic tale.

 

On my wish list would be an adventure involving Dracula - a very 1890's character. There was an excellent three-parter in Roleplayer Independent that was a sequel to Stoker's tale, but a novel approach like that taken in the recent Dracula Dossier - or even Zelazny's A Night in the Lonesome October, where the Count is cast in a less villainous role - would be equally welcome.

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Judgetrev

Captain Nemo searching for R'yleh would be cool. Did anyone make that yet?

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SunlessNick

Yet another vote for Sacraments of Evil; all of them.

 

I far prefer the scenarios from the second edition of Gaslight to those of the first.

 

Generalising one reason for the latter preference, I'd rather not see characters from famous works of fiction.  Arthur Conan Doyle had a keen interest in justice, including making attempts to gather evidence to exonerate people who he thought had been wrongly convicted - he managed to secure at least two acquittals, which helped lead to the formation of the court of appeal.  In addition, he was a believer in the supernatural, with a general assumption that supernatural forces would be benign, and a general intent to publicise any evidence of it he came across.  I submit, he'd be a much more interesting inclusion than Sherlock Holmes.

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Pookie
On 18/07/2016 at 19:36, SunlessNick said:

Yet another vote for Sacraments of Evil; all of them.

 

I far prefer the scenarios from the second edition of Gaslight to those of the first.

 

Generalising one reason for the latter preference, I'd rather not see characters from famous works of fiction.  Arthur Conan Doyle had a keen interest in justice, including making attempts to gather evidence to exonerate people who he thought had been wrongly convicted - he managed to secure at least two acquittals, which helped lead to the formation of the court of appeal.  In addition, he was a believer in the supernatural, with a general assumption that supernatural forces would be benign, and a general intent to publicise any evidence of it he came across.  I submit, he'd be a much more interesting inclusion than Sherlock Holmes.

 

I would echo Nick's comments, but further and in particular, I do not want to see scenarios involving either Sherlock Holmes or Jack the Ripper. I tend to find scenarios involving the Ripper that provide a Mythos explanation for his activities in poor taste and I tend to find scenarios involving Sherlock Holmes to not only a raging, boring cliche, but inexplicable since a mind like his would accept the uncaring nature of the universe and likely go insane. That is in addition to the fact that the presence of Holmes is tantamount to negating player agency since he would surely have surmised the existence of the Mythos.

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The_Tatterdemalion_King

Alternately, you could have Holmes (or, I don't know, Solar Pons?) show up, and reveal himself to be a raging apopheniac who has a reputation for genius purely on the basis of Watson's sycophantic memoirs and buffaloing Lestrade with polysyllabic proclamations. 

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golfsale
On 18/07/2016 at 19:45, Pookie said:

I do not want to see scenarios involving either Sherlock Holmes or Jack the Ripper. 

 

I usually find Jack the Ripper utterly boring. The fact that I consider Return of the Ripper to be the best Gaslight supplement is all the more telling.

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Lammomedes
On 18/07/2016 at 19:59, The_Tatterdemalion_King said:

Alternately, you could have Holmes (or, I don't know, Solar Pons?) show up, and reveal himself to be a raging apopheniac who has a reputation for genius purely on the basis of Watson's sycophantic memoirs and buffaloing Lestrade with polysyllabic proclamations. 

 

Or, Holmes is just an actor, and everything is Watson's creation.

 

Of course, you could just watch "Without a Clue!" which is the same premise. It is one of my enjoyable whimsy movies about the Great Detective.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096454/

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Pookie

I usually find Jack the Ripper utterly boring. The fact that I consider Return of the Ripper to be the best Gaslight supplement is all the more telling.

 

Definitely not a fan of Return of the Ripper.

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woodnoggin

I prefer the scenarios in Dark Designs to those in Sacraments of Evil. We had a lot of fun with the scenes and recurring villain in the two connected Dark Designs scenarios. I believe the author wrote that he would change the ending of Eyes for the Blind were he to write it now, which may preclude a straight reprint.

 

For industrial gaslight scenarios there is Geoff Gillan's 'The Machine King'.

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Deodanth

Similarly I'd be quite interested in some of the monographs in terms of topic, like Sudan and Raj, but as I've heard the execution leaves something to be desired I haven't bought them. 

 

Glad that others have mentioned settings outside of London.  I'll put in a plug for "Spheres of Influence" from Mysteries of Sudan.  With some embellishment, it would make a full-fledged scenario and a nice romp through London, Rome, Cairo, Aswan, Khartoum, and possibly other locations.

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Shimmin Beg

Glad that others have mentioned settings outside of London.

 

I think it's particularly important - and the non-UK/US settings especially - for a couple of reasons. 

 

One, there's enough London-centric Victoriana out there that if there's any setting you can probably blag, it's London.  I mean, my London friends and historian friends might complain, but eh.  Making up other regions is tougher.  I have a vague, inaccurate picture in my head of what Cockney costermongers do but basically no idea what life was like for rural farmers, fishermen, middle-class families in small towns, etc. (and researching this is harder than I hoped).

 

Two, a lot of what is out there in English about other countries, especially the colonies and empire, is questionable and I'd really like a reliable source of information.  There's period and later literature about adventuring in the Nile or India or Mesoamerica, mostly written by Brits and Americans who might never have been there, and it tends to focus on specific things.  I'd have no confidence at all in making up a game, even set somewhere as familiar as France, let alone attempting to depict India.  And I'd also be worried that I was spectacularly distorting things, including stuff that was flat-out insulting because I didn't know any better, and so on.  I think most of us want the satisfaction of knowing that our games are mostly accurate and where they aren't it's an artistic choice on our part.

 

Can anyone advise on non-English scenarios that might be worth a look?  Because I'd also be interested in seeing some European settings, although I appreciate that's stretching the remit well beyond re-publishing to actual translation.

 

 

I prefer the scenarios in Dark Designs to those in Sacraments of Evil. We had a lot of fun with the scenes and recurring villain in the two connected Dark Designs scenarios. I believe the author wrote that he would change the ending of Eyes for the Blind were he to write it now, which may preclude a straight reprint.

 

For industrial gaslight scenarios there is Geoff Gillan's 'The Machine King'.

 

Thanks for the tip.

 

I thought there were lots of cool ideas and scenes in Dark Designs, including the basic premises, but they had structural issues.  I wonder what the revised ending would be?

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emsstrand

Anyone still really, really looking to find "The Golden Dawn", write me a personal message. I have a hint here...

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Karloff

I particularly like the bit on Golden Dawn's dedications page where it says 'thanks to [name, name] and Alan Smithee for their patience ...'

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