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wharfedalehome

hi Kaisharga... that is really annoying because it was quite expensive wasn't it? However there are alternative (and better) options for you. 

 

The product you have bought is not as advertised by the Vendor and so it is not fit for purpose. Vendors (publishers in this case) have a legal duty to provide a product that is "fit for purpose". In this case that means a book that opens and closes repeatedly without disintegrating - because that's what books need to do to function properly. So I suggest you send the photo to the Kickstarter people / or Chaosium (whoever you bought it from) and tell them that the product is "not fit for purpose". You will need to give them an estimate of how often you've used it to avaoi the "fair wear and tear" defence they may say applies. However it seems clear from the contexct (ie: the book is only a few weeks old) that this is not the case and should reasonably be expected to withstand many years of reasonable use - not a week or two.

 

Request that they (your choice from the following):

 

1) Refund you your full monies (practical but it leaves you without the book you want), or...

2) Provide a replacement copy (there may be none left though so this option may not be practical either), or...

3) Agree to pay for professional binding of a PDF file so that they undertake to pay the bills you send them after binding completed (I suggest that this is the best practical solution in the circumstances, although far from ideal).

 

They may counter offer something else - discount on future products, good will gesture but not a full refund etc. You can accept this of course but you're not legally obliged to do so and given the monies (and disappointment) involved I would not accept any alternative to one of the 3 options above.

 

Good luck.

 

Tim

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jlynn

If I was going to print the PDF, rather than binding it into one giant book, I would print it into 7 or 8 smaller booklets---one for each of the six MoN chapter/site locations (NYC, London, Kenya, Shanghai, Cairo, Australia), with a seventh booklet for the introductory materials, and perhaps an eighth for the concluding materials (but I might just combine this together with the introductory materials in a single volume, too).  That way you each chapter's Companion content would be easily available for use with its relevant MoN chapter. 

 

Allan.

 

That sounds eminently sensible to me -- after all, the original MoN boxed set was printed in precisely the same way!  ;-)

 

Slightly off topic, I ran across a book on RPGNow called "Old Shanghai."  It also has a few expansion booklets available, including one on "artifacts" which might very well be an excellent source of additional adventures above and beyond MoN things.  It goes into immense detail on Shanghai in the 20's and 30's (actually 1919 to 1937), and would probably be of enormous interest to anyone playing CoC, much less MoN.  It has a lot of factions and whatnot in it and is written as a "system neutral" book, so it should be very useful without a lot of distracting stat blocks.  I'm in the process of reading it now, so can't give you more than my immediate impression, but so far it looks outstanding and should help me enormously with evoking the spirit and atmosphere of Shanghai.

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wharfedalehome

hi Jlynn... I love Old Shanghai. A very pulpy feel and it seems well researched. I've compared it with "real" history of China, especially Shanghai, for the period of the 1930s and it seems both accurate and atmospheric. Like yourself, I will use it to flesh out the Shanghai chapter of MoN and I think it's perfect for the job. Worthy though MoN Companion is, and it is good, Old Shanghai is even better for this. I was planning to run MoN with my partner as part of the Player Group, but there's a problem.... While new to RPGing she isn't new to China. In fact she would regard herself as an old(ish) China hand and would prefer the whole game be set in China. So maybe it won't be MoN after all. Old Shanghai has plenty of material to start a fully fledged Oriental campaign set in the Paris of the East, although admittedly not Chthulhoid based. So a galaxy of opportunities awaits...

 

To anybody who hasn't seen Old Shanghai, give it a once over. It's great background. You can get it at RPGNow (as JLynn says) or here:

 

http://www.drivethrurpg.com/browse.php?keywords=old+shanghai&x=0&y=0&author=&artist=&pfrom=&pto=

 

Have fun!

 

Tim

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jlynn

Well, that's a pretty enthusiastic endorsement!  And, from my reading thus far, he ain't wrong! 

 

I was actually thinking it would both really help flesh out an area of the world that I am sadly not very familiar with for MoN, and could also would serve as a great resource to launch a Far Eastern CoC campaign!  I've always thought that China and/or mainland Asia could use a good source book of the "Mysteries of ..." kind; or even two separate ones (one for China, and one for SE Asia).

 

However, having said all of that, it's time to go back to the primary topic of the thread; the Masks of Nyarlathotep Companion!  ;-)

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littleo

Pulp Egypt from Griffon Publishing is also very good when combined with the companion chapter for Cairo.

M

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jlynn

That's a very good point, and, of course, if anyone has it (or can acquire a copy) the Cairo Guidebook is very useful as well.  I will also mention, in passing that Ken Hite wrote up something for pulp play called Tombhounds of Egypt which is based off the same system used in Trail of Cthulhu and can be useful for both atmosphere and some ideas for a Cairo-based campaign.  (And PoC and someone else previously mentioned Amelia Peabody's Egypt as a good source book -- which I have since acquired and can definitely agree that it is.)

 

I would like to note that it's past time for Chaosium to consider updating things like the Cairo Guidebook, however!  ;-)

 

Also, on the London chapter, I can't recommend Cubicle 7's Cthulhu Britannica: London highly enough.  It's a superb boxed set giving some wonderful background info and a LOT of detail on day-to-day life, historical events, myths and legends, etc., all of which will add some superb atmosphere to your London adventures.  And the maps are fantastic!  Of course, there is also the older London Guidebook and Green and Pleasant Land (which has a brief description of London, among many other places). Finally, there is Pagan Publishing's Bookhounds of London, a campaign setting for Trail of Cthulhu, which, while grittier than some, does have a lot of interesting information in it as well.  It should be noted however that there is a lot of overlap among all these sources; so if I had to recommend but one, it would be Cthulhu Britannica: London as a primary source book.

 

As far as New York goes, of course, there is Secrets of New York, which is helpful, and Tales of the Sleepless City (Miskatonic Press) adds a bit of depth to the city -- as well as a number of scenarios that might conceivably be adapted for use in the campaign as well.

 

If you're considering playing the "pre-scenario" where the players meet Jack in Latin America, I can recommend Pagan Publishing's The Mysteries of Mesoamerica as a good source book (not "superb," but definitely quite good).  And, at least one of the scenarios would be easily used for the same purpose (introducing Jack to the players) as the one included in the Companion, if you wanted to throw a curve ball at anyone who has read the Companion already.

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littleo

Is the Secrets of Kenya book a good supplement for the Kenya chapter?

M

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rylehNC

Is the Secrets of Kenya book a good supplement for the Kenya chapter?

M

 

That was one of its design goals. It's quite thorough although the adventures weren't to my taste.

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jlynn

Is the Secrets of Kenya book a good supplement for the Kenya chapter?

M

 

Yes, and it was specifically written with MoN in mind.  Though I agree with rlyehNC above -- most of the scenarios weren't precisely my cup of tea (and I probably wouldn't try to integrate them into MoN in any way).  It's a pretty thorough job of discussing 1920's and '30's Kenya, though.

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Chitin

Besides Taavi's Walkabout, what's left outstanding on this kickstarter? Was "The Burning Heart" ever sent out? 7e Conversion?

And is it possible to purchase the PDF Add-On's anywhere? 

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jlynn

That's a really good question.  Frankly this thing got started so long ago, that I've lost the bubble on what has been done, what hasn't been done, and whether or not I even got the things (other than the massive and wonderful book) that were offered in the Kickstarter!

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GatesOfYith

Hello, and Ia! 'n stuff.
 

MoN comanion
 $50 ish BUCKS.
 I have questions.

I refused to buy the "Complete MoN" because of the CRAPPY art, and CRAPPIER writing updates.

I would love to know the vernacular was corrected to reflect the era, the 12 year old doodle art REMOVED and replaced with something worthy of this campaign.

 

In order for me to drop this bit of change on a PDF! I'll need some questions answered and assurances that I am getting a stellar product comparable to the other new aerials which hearken well back to the classier older products . 

So... Review and answer away PLEASE!!!
 and thanks.

 

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PoC

Here's one review by Paul St John Mackintosh:

The Masks of Nyarlathotep Companion - A Review

- and here's @Max_Writer unboxing a Contributor edition copy.

 

 

Print copies are currently on eBay, asking £150 (c. $210 USD) plus postage.

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