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The Cheapside Hoard - 1912

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Graham

I only stumbled across this story a few days ago, but it would with a few alterations make for an interesting campaign 'start' and rather a change from the standard "An old friend dies/writes a letter/calls/etc..." hook.

 

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The greatest collection of treasure ever discovered in London is now on show at Museum of London. The Cheapside Hoard was uncovered in 1912, when workmen broke through into a cellar on the eponymous street. The hoard, thought to have been buried in the mid-17th Century, contains more than 500 items, including gemstones, jewellery and cameos. Its allure is not just the beauty of a priceless collection, but also the mystery that still surrounds it. Who did it belong to? Why was it buried? And why was it never recovered?

 

http://londonist.com/2013/10/the-cheapside-hoard-sparkles-at-museum-of-london.php?showpage=1#gallery-1

 

Wikipedia has a not too bad article on this with several links to more detailed articles.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheapside_Hoard

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yockenthwaite

There was an excellent BBC4 documentary about it a few weeks ago. Seeing the quality of the craftsmanship was jaw dropping. I agree it would make an excellent starting point for a Call of Cthulhu scenario.

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Wembley

I was looking at something similar with a hoard found locally here -- the twist was that the finder didn't hand everything over, and some of the items were found in her purse 50 years later when she died.

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Graham

I was looking at something similar with a hoard found locally here -- the twist was that the finder didn't hand everything over, and some of the items were found in her purse 50 years later when she died.

 

Looking at some of the later finds (eg After the passage of the Treasure Act 1996 and the creation of the Portable Antiquities Scheme.) a modern day campaign start could be as follows, metal detectorist finds jar with coins and the PCs are bought in by the PAS to do the excavation, when they do they find the coins were covering a mythos artifact of some kind. This could even be a way to link an Invictus adventure with the present day.

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Wembley

Looking at some of the later finds (eg After the passage of the Treasure Act 1996 and the creation of the Portable Antiquities Scheme.) a modern day campaign start could be as follows, metal detectorist finds jar with coins and the PCs are bought in by the PAS to do the excavation, when they do they find the coins were covering a mythos artifact of some kind. This could even be a way to link an Invictus adventure with the present day.

Or metal detectorist sidesteps the PAS and offers their find to a friend of a friend who 'might be interested in this sort of thing' to create more complications

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misterc

Or a developer finds artefacts on a recently cleared site, but decides not to call in the county archaeological team (as is now required by law) to save time and money.  Instead the finds are quickly covered, but a few choice items (with mythos significance, naturally) are kept and later find their way onto the black market.  Perhaps the investigators have to follow the trail back to discover the original site to complete something or destroy something?

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Helen

Great ideas.

 

On 11/11/2013 at 08:43, misterc said:

Or a developer finds artefacts on a recently cleared site, but decides not to call in the county archaeological team (as is now required by law) to save time and money.  Instead the finds are quickly covered, but a few choice items (with mythos significance, naturally) are kept and later find their way onto the black market.  Perhaps the investigators have to follow the trail back to discover the original site to complete something or destroy something?

 

Oh I wish the County Archaeologist had to be called in by law. Sadly not. Some counties have axed the post.

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HJ

Slightly off topic. A few years ago, I was chatting with the National Trust warden at Runnymede. He has to regularly chase off metal detectorist from the meadow.

 

One, the warden had arrested because he had a pocket full of Roman coins he'd just dug up.

 

 

Horde always makes me think of dragons.

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Wembley

An archaeologist friend of mine one had some people bring him an item they had found because they thought it was cursed -- allegedly odd things started happening when they took it home, and they gave it to him wrapped with a crucifix!  All nonsense of course, there's no such thing as ----

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Asmodas

Perhaps the coins are the "Dollars of Dagon" detailed in the recent TUO - gold double-eagle proofs that were minted as part of a test set by the U.S Mint using Innsmouth gold. Once they turn up, certain members of the Marsh family might become very interested in the collector. PI investigators could be hired by the collector after he refuses a very generous offer, and is now being subject to stalking or other forms of harrassment.

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Graham
On 11/11/2013 at 17:19, Asmodas said:

Perhaps the coins are the "Dollars of Dagon" detailed in the recent TUO - gold double-eagle proofs that were minted as part of a test set by the U.S Mint using Innsmouth gold. Once they turn up, certain members of the Marsh family might become very interested in the collector. PI investigators could be hired by the collector after he refuses a very generous offer, and is now being subject to stalking or other forms of harrassment.

 

According to the Portable Antiquities scheme, they may have been found, in Hackney of all places.

 

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Today at St Pancras Coroner's Court, an inquest was opened into the discovery of a hoard of American gold dollar coins found in Hackney, which are currently being examined in the Museum of London.

 

http://finds.org.uk/news/stories/article/id/197

 

Also while looking through the 2007 Treasure Report I found the perfect 'hook', which is sadly unrelated to the material above:

 

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The coins were deposited anonymously at the front desk of the Yorkshire Museum. The person depositing them said that they were addenda to the ‘Plompton’ Hoard. No such hoard is known and because the finder gave no contact details further research has not been possible. Sam Moorhead (National Finds Adviser) has catalogued the coins from descriptions provided.

 

See page 181.

 

http://finds.org.uk/documents/treasurereports/2007.pdf

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Asmodas
On 11/11/2013 at 17:35, Graham said:

According to the Portable Antiquities scheme, they may have been found, in Hackney of all places.

 

http://finds.org.uk/news/stories/article/id/197

 

Also while looking through the 2007 Treasure Report I found the perfect 'hook', which is sadly unrelated to the material above:

 

See page 181.

http://finds.org.uk/documents/treasurereports/2007.pdf

 

Very cool! That is a great plot hook, too.

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Lovecrust

Looking at some of the later finds (eg After the passage of the Treasure Act 1996 and the creation of the Portable Antiquities Scheme.) a modern day campaign start could be as follows, metal detectorist finds jar with coins and the PCs are bought in by the PAS to do the excavation, when they do they find the coins were covering a mythos artifact of some kind. This could even be a way to link an Invictus adventure with the present day.

 

Brilliant!

If the group had already played as characters of ancient Rome, they'd have an immediate emotional attachment upon the excavation.

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wombat1
On 11/11/2013 at 23:25, Lovecrust said:

Brilliant!

If the group had already played as characters of ancient Rome, they'd have an immediate emotional attachment upon the excavation.

 

Or, you can either

 

a) generate up some Roman characters and run a prequel as a "one shot" (however long it is) to "see what Invictus is like:" and link it all together or

 

b ) generate up some Roman characters who happen to have the same stat blocks and appearances (and some different skills) and run without any explanation but perfectly straight for however long it takes and then as the players finish the very  last bit of the scenario/campaign say:  "And then you wake up and the sun has come up over the next day in [place of the original campaign] and you feel uncommonly refreshed."  (It is generally best to head quickly for the next room when this one is used.)

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Graham

This idea comes from Harry Turtledove, the hoard comprises multiple, identical copies of the same coin.

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misterc

 

Oh I wish the County Archaeologist had to be called in by law. Sadly not. Some counties have axed the post.

Oops, sorry.  Well I agree it should be.  (Guess just watching Time Team is no substitute for knowing the facts, lol)

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Lovecrust
On 12/11/2013 at 00:41, wombat1 said:

a) generate up some Roman characters and run a prequel as a "one shot" (however long it is) to "see what Invictus is like:" and link it all together

 

This is what I was thinking about, but your plan B isn't too shabby, either.

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wombat1

Dreamland scenarios could work quite well for something along those lines, especially if you salt in a different dreamland scenario in advance.  ("Pickman's Student" for example)

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bishop026

Thanks for sharing this info.

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Wembley

 

Some reali-life investigating: these days they won't tell you exactly where a hoard is found -- presumably they don't want lots of metal-detecting treasure hunters overrunning the place. But with a bit of research you can find out and visit at dead of night...

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justadame

Just had a vision of a scenario where one of the Pc's pursues a small side quest thro the Dreamlands only to wake up stuck under the Foundations of a House......... Could be a nice nightmare interlude.

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Graham

Just had a vision of a scenario where one of the Pc's pursues a small side quest thro the Dreamlands only to wake up stuck under the Foundations of a House......... Could be a nice nightmare interlude.

 

That it could.

 

Just found a very interesting article on the man who managed to purchase most of the Cheapside Hoard after it was found:

 

 

It was only a small shop in an unfashionable part of London, but it had a most peculiar clientele. From Mondays to Fridays the place stayed locked, and its only visitors were schoolboys who came to gaze through the windows at the marvels crammed inside.

 

http://allkindsofhistory.wordpress.com/2013/08/19/stoney-jack-and-the-cheapside-hoard/#more-2038

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Graham

Apologies for this necropost which is almost two years after the last one, but the original report on the 'Hackney Hoard' is no longer online, but the final database report is:

 

Hackney Hoard

 

 

The Hackney Hoard

 

The 80 coins are all gold 20-dollar pieces of the United States, issued between 1854 and 1913. The coins are thus all the same denomination, introduced in this form in 1850, and were struck to the same standard, 90% gold, used from 1837 until the end of US gold coinage in 1933

 

https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/438813

 

Also just something that came to me while looking at the pictures of various Roman cavalry parade helms recently (2016), many of them had full-face masks, the possibilities for posession or inadvertent transportation are obvious.

 

Mind you I also have vague memories of a story I read in high school where someone is transported back into the Roman era by looking at a 'magic-ed(sic)' hand mirror, the character in that tale does return to the present and buries the mirror face down as deeply as they can so that no one else will be caught by it.

 

And of course as a final line, there is the possibility of finding a hoard, but one that was not hidden because the coins were valuable...

 

 

A hoard of 7,083 coins, all probably contemporary copies (e.g. counterfiet) of a 30 denier piece of Louis XIV of France (r. 1643-1715 AD), all dated 1711, all 'Lyon' mint...

 

Hampshire Hoard

 

https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/392918

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Graham

Another bump, two years after the last with a story from France...

 

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French gendarmes say workers paid to demolish an uninhabited house in Brittany made an unexpected discovery in the cellar — 600 gold coins.

The Pont-Aven gendarmerie said on Monday (local time) that after rattling a mysterious, shell-shaped container, the workers discovered the coins inside.

They were Belgian, dated 1870, and bore the face of the then-reigning king of Belgium, Leopold II.

 

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The discovery in Brittany is not the first time a group of French workers have stumbled upon exactly 600 gold coins.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/pot-of-gold-found-in-french-house-slated-for-demolition/ar-AAyvDl2

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