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Art and Design for 7th Edition Call of Cthulhu Rulebook

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The_Tatterdemalion_King
btw, my aim is not to start another "CoC 6th ed layout sux and here's why lol" thread here. That horse has been beaten, bludgeoned to a pulp, and reduced to its essential saltes. Everyone is aware of the shortcomings of that design, and we're going to strive to make it as Keeper and Investigator friendly as possible. Promise. :)

 

I just feel bad actually reiterating my suggestions, because if I really felt strongly about it I just should've bid for the job. (That said...)

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Sorrowking

Not that Im one to blow my own horn but theres always..um..me.

http://sorrowking.deviantart.com/

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ElijahWhateley

So I remembered an old web page and took another look at it. Here's a collection of 101 images of Cthulhu, some good, some terrible, most in between: http://www.thelovecraftsman.com/2011/09/gallery-101-images-of-great-cthulhu.html

 

I did some reverse image searches for the ones I really liked, and found where they came from. Here are the ones that I could find, and that weren't already published by Chaosium

(to my limited knowledge):

http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/04/10/cthulhu-rises-through-the-mist/

http://nebezial.deviantart.com/art/cthulhu-rising-142153261

http://angelineorellana.blogspot.com/2010/01/first-mentor-assignment.html

http://nachomolina.deviantart.com/art/CTHULHU-131224443

http://davidellisart.blogspot.com/2009/11/cthulhu.html

 

It's a pity that a lot of the best ones I actually couldn't track down.

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The_Tatterdemalion_King

I'd like it if any given piece of art in the book could be used as a handout.

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paladin2769

Kinda-off topic, but not necessarily (and I didn't know where else to bring it up without making a new thread.

 

If I may make a suggestion, can they not use a hard-to-read font (nothing too fancy or looks like calligraphy)? Also, I would really prefer no background on the text pages (like that distracting one with the insects). It really triggers my phobia/hatred of bugs and that would really be a problem for me as a keeper and player if I skieve reading the book. :)

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Cole

I really like stuff by Chris Huth

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The_Tatterdemalion_King
Kinda-off topic, but not necessarily (and I didn't know where else to bring it up without making a new thread.

 

Well, here's Badger's thread...

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paladin2769

Is it possible to not have the bugs / burned edges after all? It would do wonders for my hatred/phobia of insects in that I could actually run a game without being severely creeped out over the contents. :)

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paladin2769

Thanks, must have missed that one. Just added to it and am now following it too.

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thewoozle

How do you feel about the French book's design? I think that will say a lot. Personally, I like it.

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Jonathan Strange
How do you feel about the French book's design? I think that will say a lot. Personally, I like it.
Edge Entertainment's new Spanish Edition is another one to consider:

http://www.edgeent.com/v2/edge_news.asp?eidn=1141

http://www.edgeent.com/v2/edge_news.asp?eidn=1174

http://www.edgeent.com/v2/edge_news.asp?eidn=1200

http://www.edgeent.com/v2/edge_news.asp?eidn=1208

 

And from Masks of Nyarlathotep:

http://www.edgeent.com/v2/edge_news.asp?eidn=1455

http://www.edgeent.com/v2/edge_news.asp?eidn=1466

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DrPeterson

 

Wow, that's awesomely done. I must remember to pick up a copy when I'm in Spain this summer. Best learn some Spanish as well...

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G.Roby
PaulFricker

The degree to which those portraits are so well rendered and so closely based upon the originals is remarkable.

 

PoC: What I wanted to do was click 'Like' on your post (or +1 or whatever the twitter equivalent is).

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supreme_martian_overlord

Ok those examples are so good i feel like I've walked into an invisible wall and fallen over.

 

If they translate that version of MoN back to english i think i'll grab a copy just because of the art!

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rogerd
How do you feel about the French book's design? I think that will say a lot. Personally, I like it.

 

The European versions of most D100 settings are far better than the English (American & UK) versions by a massive margin. This came to light when we were discussing Nephilim (over at RPG.net) and some scan photo's were posted showing the rather stark contrast - as is the case here too. Personally I see no reason why we should have to accept the second-rate artwork we get (and let's not kid ourselves about this - it really is) in most books and we have every right to get the outstanding quality other countries do - anything else is just pure lazy.

 

 

As always totally outstanding quality, and this is the type of thing we should expect.

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trevlix

I think the key to this is, this is the type of images and layout we want.

 

We will pay for it.

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PoC

As two separate threads (Paul's on art & Badger's on layout/design) have ended up essentially talking about the same thing, I've now merged them into one topic, here.

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HomoLupusDomesticus

Though both the French and Spanish edition overall look extremely nice, I did notice quite some recycled FFG pieces in them. Let's not have that in CoC 7E, please. I'm tired of seeing those illustrations everywhere, and I also think that some of them are more appropriate for a pulp '30s game, than one set in the Roaring Twenties.

 

The character portraits in the Spanish Masks are indeed awesome!

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Boris

From previous posts there have been some really great examples (and I love the character portraits from the Spanish MoN). I must admit that I'm hoping that we get a full colour version up to the standard of the "European" translations, as the examples I've seen seem really stylish. It would be great for CoC to be a real front-runner of Chaosium's catalogue as far as quality goes, and the game being something that you would be willing to own as much for the look/ feel as for the game itself.

 

I have a few ideas that I think would be nice to see, but these are intended simply as suggestions/ ideas/ personal thoughts:

 

- No "gimmicky" text ~ for example the strange column lay out in d20 Cthulhu could make reading some sections a bit odd/ awkward.

 

- "Vertical Index" ~ tabs or similar on the edge of the pages that let you know what section of the book you are in when you open at any point (I think the French Anniversary version has this)

 

- No too much "background" art ~ text should be clear and easy to read, art to support the text it is adjacent too; page borders would be nice though

 

- Not too many differing styles ~ a coherent feel to the whole book

 

- Period art/ photographs ~ Call of Cthulhu is a period game and a period "feel" would be great

 

- Colour Plates ~ especially full page pictures at section/ chapter starts; if the whole book can't be in colour, at least some full page pictures/ sections would be nice to see (especially given some of the examples shown in previous posts)

 

- Not too much art! ~ Personally I think some modern games are too "busy" (after all they are rule books); also if cost is an issue, less but better quality art would be preferable

 

- Not all tentacles and blood splatters ~ art that shows investigators, period settings etc. rather than every picture having a monster of some sort

 

No matter what, I am REALLY looking forward to seeing a final 7th edition :)

Cheers

D.

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thewoozle

I asked Sandy Peterson to autograph my third-edition COC book recently and after thumbing through it for the first time.. this century.. I realized that I really missed seeing those color plates. they gave the book a unique feel.

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