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#1 ReydeAmarillo

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 01:38 PM

I am currently brainstorming a 1st C  Galilee campaign - mostly focused around an investigation of a certain person from Nazareth (with a huge Mythos emphasis!)..

 

I am planning on one Investigator being a Sadducee sent up from Jerusalem to uncover the (awful) truth. As such it would be helpful to understand the Torah and its implication on Jewish thought and society.

 

I read the Bible (in my youth) and so I am aware of the Pentateuch/Torah's literary composition and the broadest implications of it on Jewish life, and obviously, the Ten Commandments are a good place to start. But I would like (without buying and reading the Bible afresh) to be able to utilise and (mostly accurately) depict it within Jewish society for both Investigators and NPC's.

 

To that end I wondered if anyone out there can recommend a website that gives a summary of the Torah and (if possible) how it impacts on a faithful Jews life.

 

With thanks, in anticipation.

 

 

 




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Posted 11 January 2017 - 03:12 PM

This chart might be a good start:

http://www.jewishvir...es_essenes.html

 

The Bible for Dummies would probably be a good overview and quite likely can be taken out of any library. 

https://www.amazon.c...ble for dummies

 

I have always found the "for Beginners" series helpful. Judaism for Beginners

https://www.amazon.c...m for beginners


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Posted 11 January 2017 - 03:25 PM

Did you know, selling goods you do not own, is expressly against the word of the Torah? I like to remind Bankers of that little fact.


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Posted 11 January 2017 - 08:47 PM

The broader question is what resources exist that describe an extinct sect's views on the Torah in the 1st Century AD.
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 07:19 AM

The broader question is what resources exist that describe an extinct sect's views on the Torah in the 1st Century AD.


Very true and so far I have only been able to discover the broadest hints about any of the three Jewish sects of the time. But although each had distinct beliefs they all started at the Torah.

That is why I am only expecting to be able to reproduce "(mostly accurate)" representations of that in game.

However, IMHO, just like any CoC era of play, historical and societal factors should be boldly presented by the Keeper and encouraged in the Players.

As examples - touching a dead body made a priest ritually unclean for seven days. So should the SAN loss for seeing a dead body be increased? Sorcery of any sort was a terrible sin. Should Investigators be extremely wary about casting a spell even to banish a Mythos entity?

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 07:29 AM

IIRC, the Torah is the first five books of the Bible. When my cousin had his bar mitzvah, the rabbi explained that the synagogue had three Torah scrolls, one of which was a half-sized scroll (in height, not length), known as "The Tiny Torah". I guessed, correctly, that this was to make it easier to hide when Judaism was persecuted.



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Posted 12 January 2017 - 09:55 AM

In my cursory googling I haven't been able to find much beyond: the Sadducees particularly are anti-Oral Law (as it undercuts their authority as aristocratic holders of religious authority) and (if I'm reading stuff right) tend toward Hellenization.

As examples - touching a dead body made a priest ritually unclean for seven days. So should the SAN loss for seeing a dead body be increased?


Nah. If your character passes the SAN roll, it just means that performing Temple sacrifices inured them to the sight of death.
 

Sorcery of any sort was a terrible sin. Should Investigators be extremely wary about casting a spell even to banish a Mythos entity?


Yes, but that's no different from a regular Call of Cthulhu game...
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 12:39 PM

All the reading material you could ever want.

http://www.jewishvir...ble/jpstoc.html

 

For a fictional based game, why not have a new 'prophet' style adventure, where in  someone with miraculous abilities appears and starts getting up to shenanigans?


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Posted 13 January 2017 - 03:35 AM

The main difference between the Pharisees and the Sadducees is that the Pharisees believed in a physical, bodily resurrection, while the Sadducees believed that the resurrection was only spiritual. Paul used this division when he was on trial, stating that he was called into question because of his belief in bodily resurrection and pointing out that he was a Pharisee and the son of a Pharisee. At that point in time, the Pharisees were a more popular sect than the Sadducees, though both carried influence.


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Posted 13 January 2017 - 07:18 AM

All the reading material you could ever want.
http://www.jewishvir...ble/jpstoc.html

For a fictional based game, why not have a new 'prophet' style adventure, where in someone with miraculous abilities appears and starts getting up to shenanigans?

Many thanks this is exactly what I was looking for. I'll be able to précis this in a few paragraphs for any Jewish Investigators and especially the Sadducee.

Certainly, historically, there were several "Messiahs" in this era, including one called an "Egyptian Sorceror" which just begs for a Mythos background !

I started my brainstorming with Jesus, but who knows where it will end up?

The main difference between the Pharisees and the Sadducees is that the Pharisees believed in a physical, bodily resurrection, while the Sadducees believed that the resurrection was only spiritual. Paul used this division when he was on trial, stating that he was called into question because of his belief in bodily resurrection and pointing out that he was a Pharisee and the son of a Pharisee. At that point in time, the Pharisees were a more popular sect than the Sadducees, though both carried influence.

Yes very true and as "The Tatterdemalion King" stated they opposed Oral Law and were somewhat Hellinised and Romanised. They tended to be the most authoritarian and broadly led the Sanhedrin.

Edited by ReydeAmarillo, 13 January 2017 - 07:19 AM.




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