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#61 tammywilding

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Posted 16 June 2016 - 09:49 AM

I've always liked RE Howard, but his view of the Mythos was less hopeless than Lovecrafts. His hero's always win! Same with Lyn Carter and the Thongor series. I always thought the 'Druids,' with their techno dark sorcery, were brilliant antagonists, except they always got killed off, not always in the most believable manners. 


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Posted 16 June 2016 - 12:19 PM

REH's mythos was still pretty bleak;

Friedrich Von Junzt dies mysteriously, Justin Geoffrey dies screaming in a madhouse, the guy in "The Thing on the Roof"  got his skull crushed, the narrator in "The Black Stone" survives but with the unsettling knowledge that monsters are real, John Grymlan in "Dig Me No Grave" lives 250 years but in the end gets his body and soul carried off to some kind of hell, the monster in "The Fire of Ashurbanipal" rips apart anyone who touches a gem.

Some heroes do fare quite a bit better though; Niord kills the monster in "The Valley of the Worm" but gets killed in the process, in "Xuthal of the Dusk" Conan defeats Thog but he would have died from his wounds if not for some restorative golden wine, but I would say Solomon Kane is the luckiest of the bunch in "The Footfalls Within" he flat out kills a mythos monster with a ju-ju staff and doesn't seem to suffer any serious wounds in the encounter. :-D



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Posted 19 June 2016 - 12:32 PM

I like Savage Foes but wasn't overly impressed with what I saw of Traveler's Tales.

I managed to buy a copy of Traveler's Tales yesterday and consider myself lucky to get a copy. But they definitely made a mess of the maps/handouts. Any idea when they're going to bring out some more supplements?



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Posted 21 June 2016 - 01:14 AM

I've always liked RE Howard, but his view of the Mythos was less hopeless than Lovecrafts. His hero's always win!  

 

Maybe that is what I like about REH better than HPL. I guess I like the notion that in the end the heroes have a chance, and Lovecraft's protagonists always come with that feeling of total despair. Howard's heroes at least are willing to pick up a gun or a pointy stick and take a poke and the baddun before getting wiped out. :-)


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Posted 22 June 2016 - 10:04 AM

I managed to buy a copy of Traveler's Tales yesterday and consider myself lucky to get a copy. But they definitely made a mess of the maps/handouts. Any idea when they're going to bring out some more supplements?

 

AFAIK they aren't.


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Posted 22 June 2016 - 10:13 AM

AFAIK they aren't.

 

Why not use google maps to zoom in on the areas of the world you want maps for, and use the snipping tool, to get some close up topographical png's.

Then you can add the names etc, you want as an overlay, reformat it in a graphics programme, and print it out!

Voila !

Maps!


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Posted 23 June 2016 - 10:38 AM

I was responding to the question about more supplements to the Solomon Kane game being published. AFAIK the game line is finished; there are no other supplements in the works.


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Posted 10 January 2017 - 07:15 PM

Babel

 

Now in the gloom the pulsing drums repeat,
And all the night is filled with evil sound;
I hear the throbbing on inhuman feet
On marble stairs that silence locks around.

 

I see black temples loom against the night,
With tentacles like serpents writhed afar,
And waving in a dusky dragon light
Great moths whose wings unholy tapers char.
Red memory on memory, tier on tier,
Builds up a tower, time and space to span;
Through world on world I rise, and sphere on sphere,
To star-shot gulfs of lunacy and fear—
Black screaming ages never dreamed by man.

 

Was this your plan, foul spawn of cosmic mire,
To freeze my soul to stone and icy fire,
To carve me in the moon that all mankind
May know its race is futile, weak and blind—
A horror-blasted statue in the sky,
That does not live and nevermore can die?

 

~ REH ~

 

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I've been unable to find anywhere whether REH's Casonetto's Last Song is the first weird tale to use the recording of an invocation to accomplish a summoning as a plot point. The story was written between 1930 and 1932. I haven't been able to locate any tale by another author previous to that date.

 

Greg Staples' excellent illo from The Horror Stories of Robert E. Howard.

 

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 01:51 AM

An all-star panel at Baycon 1968. On the panel are Bloch, Leiber, E. Hoffman Price and several other notables. The main topics are HPL, Robert E. Howard and A. Merritt.

 

https://infogalactic...tion_Convention

 



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Posted 23 January 2017 - 12:21 AM

It is Robert E. Howard's birthday. Here is the poem he wrote about the day of his birth.

 

 

I Praise My Nativity

 

Oh, evil the day that I was born, like a tale that a witch has told;
I came to birth on a bitter morn, when the sky was dim and cold.
The god that girds the loins of Fate and sends the nighttime rain,
He diced my game on an iron plate with dice carved out of pain.
"This for the shadow of hope," laughed he, as the numbers glinted up,
"This for a spell and this for hell, and this for the bitter cup."

A Shadow came out of the gloom of night and covered me with his cowl
That carried the curse of The Truer Sight and the blindness of the owl.
Oh, evil the day that I was born, triply I curse the day,
And I would to God I had died that morn and passed like the ocean spray.
 

~REH~



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Posted 26 February 2017 - 09:22 PM

Good stuff in this thread!

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Posted 05 March 2017 - 01:56 PM

This review on YouTube about sums it up:

 

 

I finally got The Savage Foes of Solomon Kane and it is a very good supplement: not just a list of monsters, but some of the best "scenarios" for the game; and some nice ideas, such as the Liber Vorago.

 

By the way, my character is a witchfinder on the model of Matthew Hopkins. The rulebook claims that all witches have genuine magical powers. I find this hard to believe; instead I have compiled this:

 

WITCHFINDER'S WITCH TABLE

 

1d6 potential witches per settlement (this d6 can ace). Payment of £1 per witch processed.

 

Roll d6 for nature of witch:

 

1: Witch has real magical powers.

2: Witch has familiar.

3: Accused sinks when "swum" (no payment).

4: Not a real witch. False confession after 2d6 hours (dice can ace).

5: Not a real witch. False confession after 1d6 hours (die can ace).

6: Immediate false confession!



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Posted 07 March 2017 - 02:21 AM

I've never actually played the Solomon Kane RPG. From what I gather, it does its job pretty well as far as providing pulpy dark fantasy thrills.

 

What exactly are the time-period parameters in the game? The logical era would be about 1570 to 1610, which is the rough timeframe of SK's adulthood.

 

There seems to be an impression amongst many that Solomon was some sort of "witch-hunter". That's just not the case. No female "witch" of any kind ever appears in the SK tales. REH himself said that SK had "more than a touch of the pagan" in him. In the first Kane story ever, SK develops an alliance with a sub-Saharan shaman/"witch-doctor", N'Longa. That alliance later blooms into a full friendship where N'Longa is almost SK's mentor. 

 

What we see is not some manic ideologue seeking out heretics and unbelievers, but a man who has a relentless need to wipe out what he sees as "evil" and to right wrongs. Perhaps it is a fine line, but it's there nonetheless.

 

The Elizabethan era was not the time of "witch-finders". That came later. Even if it had been, Solomon Kane would not have followed that dark path.

 

An excellent write-up on witchcraft and society in Elizabethan England:

 

http://www.tudorgrou...Witchcraft.html

 

"To sum up, English Elizabethan witchcraft is a special case- no professional witchfinders, no clerical involvement in the legal process and probably much less than a thousand death sentences in the whole period. Magic itself is widespread and common, resorted to by many, maybe even most people, at some time or other. Many practitioners consider themselves to be doing white or good magic and can count on a fair bit of goodwill in their community which by and large keeps them out of trouble. Witchcraft prosecutions come in clusters where you get officials who believe in it and are zealous in persecuting any reported instances. Some localities are very prone to accusations of witchcraft whether because of high levels of community tensions or because it became a self-perpetuating circle of revenge and guilt. Magic was used for a huge range of purposes, by a huge range of people and was reacted to in a variety of ways, from turning a blind eye to using the full weight of the law in procedures which allowed little chance of escape."

 

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Posted 07 March 2017 - 07:16 PM

....There seems to be an impression amongst many that Solomon was some sort of "witch-hunter". That's just not the case. No female "witch" of any kind ever appears in the SK tales. REH himself said that SK had "more than a touch of the pagan" in him....

 

I think that sounds a LOT like something Howard would say, too. 

 

Seems like Howard rather admired the pagan, the wild, the savage and untamed, and had a rather dimmer view on civilization and its mild gods, its ailments, and its self-imposed weaknesses...

 

I've not had a chance to read the Solomon Kane stories yet, but what I've seen of Howard's other stories, the priests and princes of decadent, effete civilized peoples are more likely to be explicit villains in his stories than witches as a general group.  Seems like the witches I remember from Howard's stories tend to be far more ambiguous characters than villains:  perhaps helpful or perhaps destructive, but only in the way that fire or the weather are helpful or destructive:  strange, dangerous, and unpredictable, but useful, and always to be respected and treated with care....


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Posted 07 March 2017 - 07:41 PM

Ah, it's the way Howard describes him, as a Puritan, and so on. It gives people ideas.


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Posted 22 July 2017 - 04:24 PM

While I don't agree with all of their conclusions -- and they left a couple out, IMO -- this is still a good little post regarding REH's "Scions of Tsathoggua":

 

http://dice-and-doub...tsathoggua.html

 

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