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a19999577 · Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 5:36 pm Post subject:

Well, first of all, I believe Tcho-tchos are fictional. According to the d20 manual, their very culture is 'evil' and canibalistic, so as long they are raised in it, they will be too. 'Non-corrupted' tcho-tchos are those which haven't had any contact with the tcho-tcho culture.

Starglim · Keeper of the Silver Gate Joined: Nov 21, 2003 Posts: 55

I believe that Tcho-Tchos were originally from The Horror from the Hills, introducing Chaugnar Faugn, but I could be wrong.

They are not just short Asian people, but literally inhuman Mythos hybrids. Possibly, if you accept the Hyperborean interpretation, they're not even partly Homo sapiens sapiens. An individual Tcho-Tcho might be brought up to act in a reasonably human fashion, but their brains are hardwired with a different potential (not necessarily evil, any more than a shark or a toad is evil).

edit: Let me clarify that: Their culture is evil and corrupt beyond any human cannibal culture or devil-worship. Their genes are not evil, but in human terms they could be called natural sociopaths.

Danharms · Lesser Servitor Joined: Dec 07, 2003 Posts: 1236

ossadagowah · Knight of the Outer Void Joined: Jul 17, 2003 Posts: 276

The Tcho-Tchos, if they indeed worship Zhar, Lloigor, and Chaugnar Faugn, seem intenesely interested with different realities and energies. Chaugnar Faugn is multidimensional; that's why ol CF is so darned hard to damage. Lloigor and Zhar disintegrate living matter whenever they touch it. These two also seem able to manipulate their shapes to fit through small cracks. Perhaps they too are able to exist in more than one dimension at the same time.

Chaugnar Faugn also built a race of dwarves which serve him, the Miri Nigri. Perhaps He played some part in the creation of the Tcho-Tchos as well. This (and this is pure conjecture here) may have come in the insertion of some supernatural essence, for lack of a better word, into the first Tcho-Tcho person, who had been a normal individual before the evil infusion.

If in fact it is the Tcho-Tchos who are evil and not their culture which is evil, accepting that they are not in fact wholly human helps us to understand if not excuse their cannibalistic tendencies.
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Danharms · Lesser Servitor Joined: Dec 07, 2003 Posts: 1236

dogstar · Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 11:26 am Post subject: Chatanooga Tcho - Tcho no go

Indeed Lovecraft did have many of the prejudices of his time.

However one should bear in mind that the Tcho-tcho are not simply cannabalistic asian humans, but a distinctive culture and race, one that in Delta Green Cannon will be virtually extingished from the face of the planet by the Vietcong and NVA, with a few being rescued by the CIA and a small number reaching the US. A very distinctive case is made that the Tcho-Tcho and the people around them are not of the same race, or maybe origin (unlike say humans and ghouls).

Is it racist, well maybe it was in its origin, but that doesn't mean it has to be now - Just because an evil mythos race is of Oriental origin, and that Lovecraft was racist, doesn't mean that this has to be the case. The Mythos is supposed to exist in far away hidden places, and as such many stories and scenarios are set in obscure and ancients locals. But worshipers and cults are found world wide, with localised flavour.
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CAThompson · Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 9:35 am Post subject:

This has nothing to do with the Tcho-Tcho, just a warning.

Anyway, i'd like to ammend my original idea of a 20's Caribbean book and say it should go down into Brazil and the rubber barrons, plus some stuff about the panama canal and the Amazon river. Then a Pulp section for the 30's and flying boats. Flying boats rule.

cynick · Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 12:27 pm Post subject:

FunGuyfromYuggoth · Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 5:03 am Post subject: Holiday fantasies

I know it's nice to fantasize here about what supplements you want to see, but in reality, until somebody decides to venture and complete the task, it's seems that it's a lot to put upon a game company that clearly has its hands/tentacles full.

Anybody here with a background in game publishing, please chime in.

There was a time in the 1980s and 1990s when Chaosium seemed to churn out a new supplement every few months. I always looked forward to their catalogs by mail. Was it that long ago? Yes...

Is it time writing, time editing? Cost/cashflow issues? Problems with distribution? Given the high quality of material that has come out of Chaosium over the years, its remarkable to me that they were able to balance the quality/demand issue.